Tesla MODEL S

darjan

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To pa je sila zavidljiv podatek, misliš da je res toliko, če gledaš da samo top shit športniki zmorejo manj, pa še to ne bistveno manj?
 

Gasper008

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Jaz nič ne mislim jaz samo Googlam
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Sicer je pa za tak dosežek potreben ca. 1,1 G pojemka, čisto verjetno.
 

AndY1

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AndY1

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I'm Dutch and am following the news. If you guys have any questions please do ask them.

First of al, I find it a tad tasteless to jump immediately to the question or even conclusions that AP was involved, that the driver fell asleep, or anything else. For all that's known now he might have had a heart attack or brain infarct, and been dead or dying before the actual accident occurred. A person just died, let's respect that and wait and see what investigations and autopsy tell us.

Secondly, Dutch firefighters are indeed aware and trained in how to deal with electric cars after setting up protocols starting in 2009. After Norway the Netherlands are the 2nd highest Tesla adoption market in Europe, so they are quite familiar with the Model S and have the schematics and relevant info in their rescue info tablets. In this case however they waited for a Tesla expert from the Tilburg factory / service center to advise them how to deal with this particular incident where:
a. The battery had been ruptured and torn in at least 2 pieces, with one half landing on the road and catching fire, which they managed to put out by covering it with dirt.
b. The driver was already confirmed dead, and they did not see any reason to put themselves at risk with half the battery still connected to the car somehow. Had the driver still been alive they would've risked their lives if needed to rescue him and wouldn't have taken 8 hours in total to get him out.
To my understanding only the part of the battery pack that was slung out unto the road caught fire, the car itself did not.

I'll try to keep you posted once I know more.
 

AndY1

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Another fatal Tesla crash reportedly on Autopilot emerges, Model S hits a streetsweeper truck – caught on dashcam

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New reports are coming out of China today claiming that the first fatality in a Tesla Model S on Autopilot was not the widely-covered crash in Florida in May 2016 that resulted in the death of Joshua Brown, but actually an accident in China in January 2016.

The accident was under investigation for the first half of the year, but the family of the victim reportedly sued ‘Tesla China’ back in July and now details of the crash are coming to light in the Chinese media.

A video of the accident was captured by the dashcam of the Tesla Model S driver, a 23-year man borrowing his dad’s car according to a report (Chinese). He was driving on the highway reportedly in the Hong Kong and Macao jurisdiction when his car hit a streetsweeper truck on the side of the road at highway speed, killing the driver.

The police found no sign that the vehicle applied the brakes before hitting the truck and the reports claims that the Autopilot was engaged at the time of the accident.

The dashcam footage doesn’t seem to show the vehicle slowing down before hitting the truck:

 

AndY1

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Tesla criticised over Autopilot safety

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Mobileye executive Amnon Shashua told Reuters that the design of Autopilot threatened to push it beyond the point that it was safe to use.

"It is not designed to cover all possible crash situations in a safe manner," he said. Mr Shashua is also technology chief at Mobileye, which develops driver assistance systems.

"It is a driver assistance system and not a driverless system," he said.
 

uncle_sam

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Ti asistenčni sistemi so nevarni, ker koliko vidim, jih ljudje ne štekajo in jih tretirajo kot 100% avtopilote. Volvo če se ne motim začne piskati če nimaš rok na volanu na primer...
Ali vozim sam ali pa čez x let vozi avto sam..tole vmes je ravno toliko, da če bi mogoče kaj spregledal in slučajno avto tudi ne bi spregledal iste nevarnosti bi pomagalo pred trkom...pa se mi zdi da pri trenutni tehnologiji se tehnika še bolj moti kot človek.
 

Hoci

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Uporabnik darjan pravi:
To pa je sila zavidljiv podatek, misliš da je res toliko, če gledaš da samo top shit športniki zmorejo manj, pa še to ne bistveno manj?

60 mph ni enako 100 kmh
 

Ales888

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Knežje mesto ***
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Uporabnik uncle_sam pravi:
Ti asistenčni sistemi so nevarni, ker koliko vidim, jih ljudje ne štekajo in jih tretirajo kot 100% avtopilote. Volvo če se ne motim začne piskati če nimaš rok na volanu na primer...
Ali vozim sam ali pa čez x let vozi avto sam..tole vmes je ravno toliko, da če bi mogoče kaj spregledal in slučajno avto tudi ne bi spregledal iste nevarnosti bi pomagalo pred trkom...pa se mi zdi da pri trenutni tehnologiji se tehnika še bolj moti kot človek.

Nisem videl, da bi že kdo to pojasnil, namreč, obstaja 5 nivojev avtonomnosti pri vožnji, Tukaj je vsak level lepo opisan;

0 = z vozilom upravlja voznik
1 = tu se najdejo predvsem zavorni asistenčni sistemi
2 = Tu so avtomatizirane vsaj dve ključni funkciji, npr. tempomat in line-assist
3 = Šofer že lahko nekatere kritične odločitve v določenih okoliščinah prepusti elektronskim sistemom (pogojno
se sem uvršča Tesla S)
4 = Popolnoma avtonomno vozilo, sposobno samostojne vožnje v vseh okoliščinah (Tu bo? Tesla l.2018)
5 = Popolnoma avtonomno vozilo, brez volana oz. možnosti človeškega upravljanja.

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Flash

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Pri oni nesreci na Kitajskem je moral voznik ali spat ali pa je igral igrice na telefonu
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Ker je imel vsaj 4-5 sekund casa, da bi lahko opazil oviro...
 

AndY1

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Tesla: Mobileye tried to stop our in-house chip development

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Tesla fired back with its own feisty response. A company spokesperson told Reuters that Mobileye wasn't happy when it learned that Tesla decided to work on its own vision chips for Autopilot. She said Mobileye "attempted to force Tesla to discontinue this development, pay them more and use their products in future hardware."

Mobileye and Tesla parted ways following the fatal Model S crash in Florida that put the carmaker's Autopilot feature in hot water. The exchange of words started after that -- Musk's company once said that its ex-partner couldn't keep up with its rate of innovation.

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Update: You knew that MobilEye wasn't just going to take Tesla's words lying down, and has already published a rebuttal. In essence, MobilEye feels that Tesla took dangerous liberties with Autopilot, ignored its partner's warnings about safety and then wound up getting thrown under the bus after the Florida crash. MobilEye will no longer comment on this matter, but it's clear that whatever pretense of goodwill the two companies were going to uphold is no longer in effect.
 

bpfc

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Dogaja se enaka zgodba, kot pred kakimi dvemi leti z izraelsko firmo metal-zračnih baterij Phinergy, ko jim je po kratkem sodelovanju, Tesla zapatentirala ves njihov razvoj.