Covid-19 Covid-19 kitajski super virus

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Dve veliki študiji, ena iz Izraela, druga iz Katarja, objavljeni v reviji New England Journal of Medicine, potrjujeta, da začne imunska zaščita po dveh odmerkih cepiva Pfizer približno v dveh mesecih po polnem cepljenju upadati, a kar je zelo pomembno – zaščita pred težkim potekom, hospitalizacijo in smrtjo še vedno ostaja visoka.

In naravna imunost je slabša od tega, ker ?
darjan, ti bomo narisal, ker ti napisano ne sede najbolje (YouTube videa pa ne bom šel delat samo zaradi tebe, čeprav vem da je za ene samo to relevanten vir :fredi: :fredi:).

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darjan

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Veliko premalo vemo o teh hospitaliziranih, da bi lahko z zagotvostjo trdili, da so tam SAMO in IZKLJUČNO zaradi kovida.

Kaj pa če so to vsi "kronični" ki pač imajo poleg še kovid?

Seveda je naravna imunost boljša za zdravega posameznika, rizični itak da se "morajo" cepit.
 

SamSvoj

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Podpisniki? meh, sami antivaxerji in ravnozemljaši....

Memegrede; gugl tega ne vrže ven vsaj pod nizom "rome declaration" ne. Tako namreč imenujejo to pisanje.

PHYSICIANS DECLARATION
GLOBAL COVID SUMMIT – ROME, ITALY​


International Alliance of Physicians and Medical Scientists
September, 2021
(view in Italian) (view in Slovak) (view in Dutch) (view in Spanish) (view in Croatian)


[UPDATE: as of 11am ET on 10/6 over 10,700 doctors & scientists have signed the Rome Declaration. Please join us by reading and signing below.]


We the physicians of the world, united and loyal to the Hippocratic Oath, recognizing the profession of medicine as we know it is at a crossroad, are compelled to declare the following;


WHEREAS, it is our utmost responsibility and duty to uphold and restore the dignity, integrity, art and science of medicine;


WHEREAS, there is an unprecedented assault on our ability to care for our patients;


WHEREAS, public policy makers have chosen to force a “one size fits all” treatment strategy, resulting in needless illness and death, rather than upholding fundamental concepts of the individualized, personalized approach to patient care which is proven to be safe and more effective;


WHEREAS, physicians and other health care providers working on the front lines, utilizing their knowledge of epidemiology, pathophysiology and pharmacology, are often first to identify new, potentially life saving treatments;


WHEREAS, physicians are increasingly being discouraged from engaging in open professional discourse and the exchange of ideas about new and emerging diseases, not only endangering the essence of the medical profession, but more importantly, more tragically, the lives of our patients;


WHEREAS, thousands of physicians are being prevented from providing treatment to their patients, as a result of barriers put up by pharmacies, hospitals, and public health agencies, rendering the vast majority of healthcare providers helpless to protect their patients in the face of disease. Physicians are now advising their patients to simply go home (allowing the virus to replicate) and return when their disease worsens, resulting in hundreds of thousands of unnecessary patient deaths, due to failure-to-treat;


WHEREAS, this is not medicine. This is not care. These policies may actually constitute crimes against humanity.


NOW THEREFORE, IT IS:


RESOLVED
, that the physician-patient relationship must be restored. The very heart of medicine is this relationship, which allows physicians to best understand their patients and their illnesses, to formulate treatments that give the best chance for success, while the patient is an active participant in their care.


RESOLVED, that the political intrusion into the practice of medicine and the physician/patient relationship must end. Physicians, and all health care providers, must be free to practice the art and science of medicine without fear of retribution, censorship, slander, or disciplinary action, including possible loss of licensure and hospital privileges, loss of insurance contracts and interference from government entities and organizations – which further prevent us from caring for patients in need. More than ever, the right and ability to exchange objective scientific findings, which further our understanding of disease, must be protected.


RESOLVED, that physicians must defend their right to prescribe treatment, observing the tenet FIRST, DO NO HARM. Physicians shall not be restricted from prescribing safe and effective treatments. These restrictions continue to cause unnecessary sickness and death. The rights of patients, after being fully informed about the risks and benefits of each option, must be restored to receive those treatments.


RESOLVED, that we invite physicians of the world and all health care providers to join us in this noble cause as we endeavor to restore trust, integrity and professionalism to the practice of medicine.


RESOLVED, that we invite the scientists of the world, who are skilled in biomedical research and uphold the highest ethical and moral standards, to insist on their ability to conduct and publish objective, empirical research without fear of reprisal upon their careers, reputations and livelihoods.


RESOLVED, that we invite patients, who believe in the importance of the physician-patient relationship and the ability to be active participants in their care, to demand access to science-based medical care.


IN WITNESS WHEREOF, the undersigned has signed this Declaration as of the date first written.
 
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darjan

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Osebo so skinliniz seznama cakajocih na presaditev organov, ker ni cepljena.
V katerem stoletju se to dogaja?
 
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China PCR Test Orders Soared Before First Reported COVID Case, Government Contracts Show Surges in Wuhan-Area Purchases Starting May 2019​

 

8888

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blizu močvirne prestolnice
Ma ja po letu dni bi morali ukrepe vse zreducirati na nulo, res pa bi v bolnišnicah morali imeti prednost cepljeni in tisti kateri so zaradi zdravstvenih razlogov opravičeni cepljenja, pa sem ne paše ta Hanzi in KameleOn
 

AndY1

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res pa bi v bolnišnicah morali imeti prednost cepljeni in tisti kateri so zaradi zdravstvenih razlogov opravičeni cepljenja, pa sem ne paše ta Hanzi in KameleOn
Domnevam, da temu primerno posledično pridejo tudi nižji prispevki za zdravstveno blagajno za necepljene?
 

darjan

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Pa to potem veljalo samo za kovid in necepljene, ali recimo tudi za gripo in necepljene, oz za vse ostale bolezni, kjer obstaja cepivo, pa se folk ni cepil?
 

mirsi

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Zakaj že? Imaš zastonj cepivo če nočeš vzeti plačaj dodatne stroške. Sem pa za ukinitev vseh odločb...
NIč ni zastonj. Cepljenje so cepljenim plačali tudi necepljeni.
V bistvu bi moralo bit prej obratno, prednost v bolnicah bi morali imeti necepljeni. Tisti ki so zaupali cepivu nimajo kaj hodit tja, naj jih kar cepivo ščiti pred boleznijo.
 

8888

mesija - Assassin's Creep
8. jul 2010
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Še to bom povedal. Nikoli nisem nikogar silil in tudi ne bom z mojim mnenjem. Vsak odgovarja za svoje telo in možgane, če jih ima. Ampak da se ne prizna o covid ter daje razne teorije zarote pa ne sprejmem. Ja na Zahodu so se postali, takih ukrepov nebi smelo biti, vlade in mediji so podpihovali strašili na koncu pa se izkaže da vaše mogoče kakšen procent folka. Ampak ker je bila možnost zastonj cepljenja bom povedal še enkrat. Če zboliš mora imeti cepljeni prednost na covid oddelku. Samo to si želim. Ne pa da bom zbolel pa za mene ne postelje, ker jo je dobil antiwakser.
 
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mirsi

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Še to bom povedal. Nikoli nisem nikogar silil in tudi ne bom z mojim mnenjem. Vsak odgovarja za svoje telo in možgane, če jih ima. Ampak da se ne prizna o covid ter daje razne teorije zarote pa ne sprejmem. Ja na Zahodu so se postali, takih ukrepov nebi smelo biti, vlade in mediji so podpihovali strašili na koncu pa se izkaže da vaše mogoče kakšen procent folka. Ampak ker je bila možnost zastonj cepljenja bom povedal še enkrat. Če zboliš mora imeti cepljeni prednost na covid oddelku. Samo to si želim. Ne pa da bom zbolel pa za mene ne postelje, ker jo je dobil antiwakser.
antiwakser ti je plačal cepljenje, (in odstopil vrsto), da ima sam posteljo na kovid oddelku. Zakaj bi ti rinil tja, in še zahteval prednost pred njim, če si zaupal cepivu?