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mirsi

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N1 je bila edina televizija ki je obsirno porocala o protestih, medtem ko so ostale TV kar lepo molcale. Tako da govoriti o N1 kot provladni TV je konkretni nesmisel.
Včeraj sem spremljal njihov portal. Še pozno zvečer so poročali o "nekaj sto protestnikih", ampak slike večtisočglave množice, po družabnih omrežjih naredijo svoje, potem so začeli pisat o "skupini protestnikov"

In kot vemo, vedno pri protivladnih protestih vladna stran skuša prikazat število čimmanjše, protestniška stran pa čim višje.
 

Ytbnd

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Pcr testi za covid-19 so kot kaže en velik nateg (niti niso namenjeni za tovrstno testiranje)
Iz cijele ove tablice glavni podatak koji bi trebalo zapamtiti je da i forward i reverse primere i boje (probe) se sastoje od samo otprilike dvadesetak nukleotida.
Sada možemo zaključiti što u biti PCR tehnika detektira. PCR tehnika ne detektira kompletan, funkcionalan virus nego samo fragmente genetskog materijala. I to od 2×30 000 baza genetskog materijala dovoljno je samo dvadesetak baza reverse primera i dvadesetak baza boje te na drugom lancu samo dvadesetak baza forward primera da bi dobili pozitivan signal. Znači od 30 000 baza genetskog materijala na temelju samo 60 baza može se dobiti pozitivan odgovor. To je samo 0.2% cjelokupnog genetskog materijala Sars-cov-2 virusa.
In virusov iz korona družine je veliko, verjetnost da bodo na pcr testu sekvencionirali ravno oni unikatni genom iz sars-cov2 je zelo majhna.



...Poleg tega je zanesljivost manj kot 20% https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32133832/

The Corona Simulation Machine: Why the Inventor of The “Corona Test” Would Have Warned Us Not To Use It To Detect A Virus


 
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Ytbnd

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iz https://revealingfraud.com/2020/03/health/test-kits-do-not-work/
VirusGuy:

Some notes on those test kits I saw you asking about on Twitter yesterday.
They don’t do antibody tests. They do a thing called PCR testing, which basically takes a sample of your cells and amplifies any DNA to look for ‘viral sequences’, i.e. bits of non-human DNA that seem to match parts of a known viral genome.
The problem is the test is known to be bullshit.
It uses ‘amplification’ which means taking a very very tiny amount of DNA and growing it exponentially until it can be analysed. Obviously any minute contaminations in the sample will also be amplified leading to potentially gross errors of discovery.
Secondly, it’s only looking for partial viral sequences, not whole genomes, so identifying a single pathogen is next to impossible even if you ignore the other issues.
All these Mickey Mouse test kits being sent out to hospitals do at best is tell the analysts you have some viral DNA in your cells. Which most of us do, most of the time. It may tell you the viral sequence is related to a specific type of virus – say the huge family of coronavirus. But that’s all.
The idea these kits can isolate a specific virus like covi-19 is utter bullshit.
And that’s not even getting into the other issue – viral load.
If you remember the PCR works by amplifying minute amounts of DNA. It therefore is useless at telling you how much virus you may have.
And that’s the only question that really matters when it comes to diagnosing illness. Like I said, everyone will have a few virus kicking round in their system at any time, and most will not cause illness because their quantities are too small. For a virus to sicken you you need a lot of it, a massive amount of it. But PCR does not test viral load and therefore can’t determine if a osteogenesis is present in sufficient quantities to sicken you.
If you feel sick and get a PCR test any random virus DNA might be identified even if they aren’t at all invo
lved in your sickness. Leading to false diagnosis.
And coronavirus are incredibly common. A large percentage of the world human population will have covi DNA in them in small quantities even if they are perfectly well or sick with some other pathogen.
Do you see where this is going yet?
If you want to create a totally false panic about a totally false pandemic – pick a coronavirus.
They are incredibly common and there’s tons of them. A very high percentage of people sick by other means (flu, bacterial pneumonia, anything) will have a positive PCR test for covi even if you’re doing them properly and ruling out contamination, simply because covis are so common.
There are hundreds of thousands of flu and pneumonia victims in hospitals throughout the world at any one time.
All you need to do is select the sickest of these in a single location – say Wuhan – administer PCR tests to them and claim anyone showing viral sequences similar to a corona virus (which will inevitably be quite a few) is suffering from a ‘new’ disease.
Since you already selected the sickest flu cases a fairly high proportion of your sample will go on to die.
You can then say this ‘new’ virus has a CFR higher than the flu and use this to infuse more concern and do more tests which will of course produce more ‘cases’, which expands the testing, which produces yet more ‘cases’ and so on and so on.
Before long you have your ‘pandemic’, and all you have done is use a simple test kit trick to convert the worst flu and pneumonia cases into something new that doesn’t actually exist.
Now just run the same scam in other countries. Making sure to keep the fear message running high so that people will feel panicky and less able to think critically.
Your only problem is going to be that – due to the fact there is no actual new deadly pathogen but just regular sick people you are mislabelling – your case numbers, and especially your deaths, are going to be way too low for a real new deadly virus pandemic.
But you
can stop people pointing this out in several ways.
1. You can claim this is just the beginning and more deaths are imminent. Use this as an excuse to quarantine everyone and then claim the quarantine prevented the expected millions of dead.
2. You can tell people that ‘minimising’ the dangers is irresponsible and bully them into not talking about numbers.
3. You can talk bullshittery about r0 numbers hoping to blind people with pseudoscience
4. You can start testing well people (who of course will also likely have shreds of coronavirus DNA in them) and thus inflate your ‘case figures’ with ‘asymptomatic carriers’ (you will of course have to spin that to sound deadly even though any virologist knows the more symptomless cases you have the less deadly is your pathogen
Take these simple steps and you can have your own entirely manufactured pandemic up and running in weeks.
But why are you doing this people may ask.
Lots of reasons. Fear is useful. And a population frightened into demanding protection will accept anything you do to ‘protect’ them, up to and including nailing them into their own houses.
It can be a trial run for social control methods. To see how gullible populations are. To enforce more rigorous censorship. To inure people to shortage and uncertainty.
All these things and others are reasons.
But getting hung up on possible motive misses the point – that all the evidence points to this being the case.
Everything I am seeing points at a fake manufactured pandemic. The low numbers and attempts to inflate them with scary anecdotes and bad science, the crazy overreaction in world governments, as if the reaction itself is the point. The ridiculous numbers of famous people ‘testing positive’.
It could easily be done and it looks as if it is. In my view. But you must make up your own mind.
I think many in the virology and epidemiology line would agree, but no one is going to risk their career right now saying so in public. They might as well jump off of a brid
ge.
You can verify everything I have said about the PCR test.
 

KillaKHAN

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Pcr testi za covid-19 so kot kaže en velik nateg (niti niso namenjeni za tovrstno testiranje)

In virusov iz korona družine je veliko, verjetnost da bodo na pcr testu sekvencionirali ravno oni unikatni genom iz sars-cov2 je zelo majhna.



...Poleg tega je zanesljivost manj kot 20% https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32133832/


A lahko nehaš ti postat neumnosti, ki so skoraj enakovredne tisti s saturacijo kisika in maske?

Edini članek, ki je linkan na pubmed je bil RETRACTAN.

In glavni problem testiranj je kvečjemu to, da kak okužen dobi lažno negativni rezultat, kot pa obratno.

Kolkr je ta internet naredil dobrih stvari je še mnogo več slabih, ko se take neumnosti kot clickbait širijo po internetu in delajo škodo med nižje izobraženo populacijo, ki slepo naseda naslovom in nima izkušenj s kritičnim branjem strokovnih člankov.
 

Ytbnd

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Glej , če daješ na test 0.2% celotnega genoma in verjameš pozitivnemu rezultatu omenjenega pcr testa, potem raje vrni diplomo MF.



From a manufacturer of PCR test kit elements, Creative Diagnostics, “SARS-CoV-2 Coronavirus Multiplex RT-qPCR Kit” [4]:

“Regulatory status: For research use only, not for use in diagnostic procedures.”
Translation: Don’t use the test result alone to diagnose infection or disease. Oops.



“non-specific interference of Influenza A Virus (H1N1), Influenza B Virus (Yamagata), Respiratory Syncytial Virus (type B), Respiratory Adenovirus (type 3, type 7), Parainfluenza Virus (type 2), Mycoplasma Pneumoniae, Chlamydia Pneumoniae, etc.”
Translation: Although this company states the test can detect COVID, it also states the test can read FALSELY positive if the patient has one of a number of other irrelevant viruses in his body. What is the test proving, then? Who knows? Flip a coin.
 
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KillaKHAN

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Ti veš kaj PCR je? In kaj je PCR pomenil v znanosti v zadnjih ~30 letih? In a veš sploh kako deluje, brez da se zdaj “poglobiš” v wikipedio? Nehaj se smešit.
 

doctorz

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A lahko nehaš ti postat neumnosti, ki so skoraj enakovredne tisti s saturacijo kisika in maske?

Edini članek, ki je linkan na pubmed je bil RETRACTAN.

In glavni problem testiranj je kvečjemu to, da kak okužen dobi lažno negativni rezultat, kot pa obratno.

Kolkr je ta internet naredil dobrih stvari je še mnogo več slabih, ko se take neumnosti kot clickbait širijo po internetu in delajo škodo med nižje izobraženo populacijo, ki slepo naseda naslovom in nima izkušenj s kritičnim branjem strokovnih člankov.
Napaka. Veliko je laznih pozitivnih kot laznih negativnih.
 
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doctorz

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Ritka na toplem, sebičnost pa na vrhuncu. So klasisch slowenisch...

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Floki

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Saj naša je tudi na robu zmogljivosti ker je polna zaradi tistih okuženih s klopi.
 

sad

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Jah očitno še nisi bil v kakšen DSOju. Ni tako enostavno oskrbovancem tam rečt da sedaj pa dva meseca ni več obiskov, sprehodov in druženja (zapor brez obiskov skratka), sploh če je smrt del vsakdana in veš da boš naslednji teden lahko ti na vrsti. Če ti misliš da kamera in skype rešita tak problem pa ti en mesec ali dva sexaj z ženo preko skypa! ;)
Zakaj pa recimo ne bi naredili prostora ločenega komplet s pleksi steklom. Res da bi bilo kot v zaporu, ampak bolje kot nič in precej bolje kot da pol doma umre.