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tony

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jurek1973

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A pri nas terenska vozila (v privat lasti) več nimajo "vojaških knjižic"?
Včasih so morali tudi terenci odslužit vojaški rok.
 
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Imaš še vedno, to določa "ZAKON O MATERIALNI DOLŽNOSTI".

Je pa tako, da trenutno je vojakov manj kot pa imajo vse službe pod "državnim upravljanjem" lastnih vozil, tako da civilnih "terencev" načeloma več ne uporabljajo. To je bilo aktualno ko smo imeli še naborniški sistem in je jasno bilo vojske 20x več kot sedaj.
 

Pepe

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A pri nas terenska vozila (v privat lasti) več nimajo "vojaških knjižic"?
Včasih so morali tudi terenci odslužit vojaški rok.

Podobno traktorji. Naš traktor smo v SFRJ morali enkrat peljati preko 30 km daleč v eno smer, da so tam ugotovili, da gre za pomoto. Ni preveč zabavno, če se to po cesti premika z max 25 km / h in nima nobenega gretja.
Rekel bi, da tega ni več, oziroma se več ne izvaja. Še zato, kar si od vozil lasti vojska, ni dovolj ljudi.
Se pa spomnim, da se je sodelavec na orožnih vaja že v Sloveniji, še vozil naokrog v civilnih avtih, ki so morali na "orožne vaje".
 

Rekreacija

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Ima kar zanimivo preteklost Aljaska, pa sedanjost tudi.

 

Ytbnd

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Newsom says he should have brought 'knee pads' to Davos over leaders' 'pathetic' response to Trump​



A spremljate ameriške medije ga. Von der Leyen? Demokratski guverner Gavin Newsom vam iz Davosa sporoča, da mu je žal, da ni vzel ščitnikov za kolena, ko vas gleda klečeplaziti pred Trumpom,.... celemu svetu ste v sramoto. To vam sporoča demokratski guverner!
Bolje da ne veste, kaj si mislijo o vas in vaših evropskih kolegih republikanci. In to je bistvo problema.
Niste bili izvoljeni, nimate legitimnosti, ker kravje kupčije v evropskem parlamentu niso demokracija. Oseba, ki vodi Evropsko Unijo pa potrebuje zaupanje državljanov in moč, vi pa nimate nič od tega, vi pa ste po kolenih sledili američanom v vojno v Ukrajini in sedaj imamo v zahvalo tole.
 

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Ytbnd

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Ampak Rusi do Lizbone ???





Kako lahko Eu ukrepa, poleg kontra carin, čeprav vemo da ne bo nič od tega, VDL že obljublja neke nove investicije za Grenlandijo
Hkrati Zda držijo Eu za pi*do, ker so postali glavni dobativelj energentov. Genialna Eu politika se kaže.

Could Europe really leverage its $12.6tn pile of us assets?



Most of that $12.6 trillion isn’t in government hands. It’s sitting in private portfolios and investment funds.


Saravelos estimates $8 trillion of the assets are directly held by European investors. The rest flows through custodians and vehicles based in the region but may be owned by outsiders. Either way, governments can’t just force private holders to sell. And even if they could, it would be economic suicide.


No one can absorb Europe’s holdings, not even Asia
And here’s another funny: even if Europe wanted to sell, who’s buying? I mean, every seller needs a buyer, right?



Edino če bodo centralne banke začele počasi prodajati zda obveznice po vzoru Kitajcev (za 3600 milijard jih imajo) in s tem nehale financirati ZDA.

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Iz Evropskega parlamenta:
Evropski parlament bo po grožnjah ameriškega predsednika Donalda Trumpa s carinami na uvoz iz več evropskih držav začasno ustavil potrjevanje julija sklenjenega trgovinskega dogovora med EU-jem in ZDA.


Medtem Urška:
Von der Leyen napoveduje "nepopustljiv" odziv, a ZDA predlaga sodelovanje
-> prevod
v diplomatski latovščini to pomeni, da se EK strinja s tem, da Zda aneksira Grenlandijo.


Sprašujem eu poslance, a bodo imeli toliko vesti in končno izglasovali odpoklic EK z VdL na čelu ?
 
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Newsom says he should have brought 'knee pads' to Davos over leaders' 'pathetic' response to Trump​



A spremljate ameriške medije ga. Von der Leyen? Demokratski guverner Gavin Newsom vam iz Davosa sporoča, da mu je žal, da ni vzel ščitnikov za kolena, ko vas gleda klečeplaziti pred Trumpom,.... celemu svetu ste v sramoto. To vam sporoča demokratski guverner!
Bolje da ne veste, kaj si mislijo o vas in vaših evropskih kolegih republikanci. In to je bistvo problema.
Niste bili izvoljeni, nimate legitimnosti, ker kravje kupčije v evropskem parlamentu niso demokracija. Oseba, ki vodi Evropsko Unijo pa potrebuje zaupanje državljanov in moč, vi pa nimate nič od tega, vi pa ste po kolenih sledili američanom v vojno v Ukrajini in sedaj imamo v zahvalo tole.
Dobro je povedal.
Samo pičke nimajo jajc, dokler ne bo prepozno.
 
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tony

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" v diplomatski latovščini to pomeni, da se EK strinja s tem, da Zda aneksira Grenlandijo."

To smo morali narediti, ker je koristilo NATU.
 

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William Spaniel
A professor who studies war and game theory.

SummYT - YouTube Summarizer
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How the United States Would Invade Greenland … and Watch It Backfire Instantly


The Feasibility of Invading Greenland 00:00​

"It is as simple as that, more or less."
  • The concept of the United States invading Greenland may appear more like a creative writing exercise than a serious discussion of international relations. However, the viability of such an action is surprisingly high due to Greenland's vast territory, which is comparable in size to Saudi Arabia, while only having a small population of around 57,000 residents. This significant size-to-population ratio means that any military operation could be executed with relative ease.
  • Denmark, responsible for Greenland's military defense, possesses limited naval resources that wouldn't be able to assure significant resistance. Its naval first squadron consists of only a handful of frigates and patrol ships, which would be quickly overwhelmed by a well-prepared American naval force.

The Immediate Consequences of Invasion 03:12​

"The hard part is doing this without completely breaking your own country in the meantime."
  • An invasion of Greenland would lead to immediate repercussions for the U.S. economy, potentially plunging it into a recession or even a depression, especially if Europe retaliated by cutting off trade. This drastic measure could result in loss of exports amounting to $700 billion and disrupt crucial global supply chains, causing chaos in production and distribution.
  • The economic fallout would not only impact the U.S. but also could create widespread dissatisfaction among European citizens towards their governments, pressuring them to support actions against the U.S. These reactions are likely to complicate the political landscape further, as both sides would face significant internal and external pressures.

The Constitutional Crisis and Military Bases 07:48​

"Either way, the United States has already lost before a true war ever started."
  • Following an invasion, a constitutional crisis would likely emerge in the United States, particularly if Congress moved to impeach the President. This would create a scenario where, regardless of the prevailing public sentiment, the balance of power within the government might shift dramatically.
  • Potential outcomes could include lawmakers refusing to support a president who undertakes such drastic measures and others leveraging the situation as an opportunity for political gain. U.S. military bases located in Europe would face quarantine and operational challenges, further complicating logistical support for American forces deployed elsewhere.

The Strategic Importance of Greenland 09:52​

"While valuable and strategically important, it is not that valuable or strategically important."
  • The speaker emphasizes that Greenland is not fundamentally crucial, but given current geopolitical tensions, it does hold some strategic importance.
  • This suggests that the consequences of military actions or interventions in Greenland could lead to significant repercussions, possibly resulting in the failure of broader strategies if not properly managed.

The Game of Chicken and Trump's Role 10:05​

"The thing is that this is a game of chicken, and Europe has the structural advantage of having the status quo in the continent's favor."
  • The commentary introduces the concept of a "game of chicken," highlighting that Europe holds a strategic advantage due to existing conditions that favor them.
  • The reference to Trump implies that if he were to escalate tensions without having solid leverage, it could lead to adverse outcomes for the United States.

A Future Scenario with Russia 10:32​

"Imagine that it is ten years from now, when there may be more direct value for possessing Greenland, and the aggressor is not the United States. It is Russia."
  • The scenario imagines a future where climate change and geopolitical tensions elevate Greenland's value, and Russia becomes the primary aggressor rather than the United States.
  • This speculation about Russia captures the audience's imagination regarding the potential for future conflicts and raises concerns about current preparedness.

The Risk of Surprise Attacks 10:50​

"No one leaks it to the press ahead of time, because media controls in Russia are tighter."
  • The narrative suggests that Russia could launch a surprise military operation against Greenland, drawing parallels to previous conflicts where media restrictions limited early warnings.
  • This highlights the vulnerability of Western nations to unanticipated strategic moves by Russia due to their tighter media controls.

The Implications of Russian Occupation 11:33​

"Russia takes the island with little resistance."
  • Should Russia successfully invade Greenland, the narrative predicts minimal resistance from the local population, foreseeing a rapid occupation.
  • A crucial consequence of such an invasion would be the potential lack of support and decisive action from the West, as many trade ties and financial interests may already be severed.

NATO's Challenges and Article 5 13:03​

"What is supposed to stop that from happening is NATO's Article 5 clause."
  • The speaker discusses NATO's Article 5, which obligates members to defend each other, yet points out the challenges that arise when trying to mobilize collective defense.
  • This underscores the need for proactive defenses in Greenland to ensure that allies are willing and able to respond effectively in times of conflict.

Preparing for Future Conflicts 13:47​

"If you want Article 5 to deter Russia properly, there needs to be some amount of defense constructed in Greenland."
  • The need for enhanced military preparations and installations in Greenland is presented as vital for deterring potential aggression from Russia.
  • The suggestion is for NATO to establish more robust defenses and troop presence in Greenland to preemptively address any potential threats.





Še ena ideja, kako trolati ZDA


Maersk je danski, MSC švicarski, CMA CGM francoski, COSCO kitajski, Hapag-Lloyd nemški, prvih 5 ima tržni delež 65.2%
 

Pepe

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Prepričan sem, da Grenladije EU ne more vojaško ubraniti ne proti Rusiji in še manj proti ZDA. Tudi, če bi npr. Kanada v nekih drugih časih pokazala "interes", bi bile težave.
 

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Prepričan sem, da Grenladije EU ne more vojaško ubraniti ne proti Rusiji in še manj proti ZDA. Tudi, če bi npr. Kanada v nekih drugih časih pokazala "interes", bi bile težave.

Ni vse v vojaški premoči...


Ko bo močnejši sosed prišel po tvojo hišo, boš tudi samo skomignil z rameni?

Nekoč, ko še niso bili večinoma pičkice:
"Manj strašna noč je v temne zemlje krili, kot so pod svetlim soncem sužni dnovi"
 
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0:40 Macron piše Trumpu (med drugim piše: we can do great things on Iran)

0:55 Mark Rutte piše Trumpu

1:18 Diego Garcia je naslednji ?
11:57 ravno kontra (Chagos deal) https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c9dqg3nqynlo (23.5 2025, posodobljeno 4 ure nazaj)


5:43 VDL bi verjetno gradila Pfizer tovarne cepiv na Grenlandiji ter zelene tanke na vodik
 

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Ni vse v vojaški premoči...


Ko bo močnejši sosed prišel po tvojo hišo, boš tudi samo skomignil z rameni?

Nekoč, ko še niso bili večinoma pičkice:
"Manj strašna noč je v temne zemlje krili, kot so pod svetlim soncem sužni dnovi"
Bodi no resen.... me malo boli k... ali služi USA miljonar ali Danski miljonar.... niti približno... naj se tepe tisti ki se mu splača
 
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